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#1 Another_User

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 06:47 PM

It's me again with some questions,

I have a P5K mobo running an Core2Duo E6750 2.66 ghz. cpu. with 4 gb of DDR2 memory. (4x 1gb Apacer)
I'm pretty satisfied with my pc since everything runs great (i know, i can't run a lot of games), made the switch to x64 so my pc uses the 'full' 4gb mem.

I did discover (forgot) that my memory only is DDR2 - 667 mhz and my mobo supports DDR2 - 800/1066 With a maximum of 8gb.

My question, is it worth the money to buy 8gb memory @ 800/1066??
When i look at the prices here i can buy;

Crusial 4 x 2gb. sticks for €133,80 CL=7
Kingston Hyper X 4x 2gb. sticks €199.80 CL=5

I find this both a lot of money since i'm pretty satisfied with my pc.
I could also rip out 2x 1gb modules and replace them with 2x 2gb. Kingston ValueRam DDR2 - 667 mhz. €64,90 CL=5 (and have a total of 6gb.)

Will i even notice the memory speed change or added gigs??,
i don't do heavy movie / photo editing or stuff like that.

What do you WinMatrixians think is wise to do...

Thanks,
A_U

Edited by Another_User, 12 June 2012 - 06:54 PM.


#2 lareeth

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:46 PM

To be honest, if your happy with your pc, just get the cheapest 2gb modules, you are not going to notice much difference between them and the more expensive stuff. Also try and get the 800mhz modules as they will be slightly faster than the 667mhz modules.

You will notice a difference with 6gb or 8gb but as you said you are satisfied with your pc at the moment, so can you justify spending the money?

#3 Another_User

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:11 PM

I forgot to say that both the crusial as the kingston are 1066 mhz so that's covered.

Is a higher CL= value better? i don't know what 'it does'..

If i upgrade the memory it feels like i have taken the maximum out of this pc config,
that's why i am willing to upgrade it even though i don't feel i need it.

Although i believe you that i will notice if i have 6 or 8 gb's, i can't imagine even faster reaction times and such.

Also i have a Asus Nvidia 9500 GT (1024) videocard, how can i see what vcards are better these days?
My WEI (Windows Experience Index)is;

CPU 6.2
Mem 6.2
Graphics 9500 GT 4.9
Gaming Graphics 6.2
Primary HD 7.1

If i upgrade both my videocard and the memory can i play 'newer' games? or is the cpu to old? (6.2 is not that bad right?)

I had high hopes that videocard vendors would have picked up the vista / win7 indexing system
so i could see it that way but it doesn't seem they have, right?

I know i smacked a lot more questions in this topic and i hope you guys can help me with,
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#4 lareeth

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 09:04 AM

I only just recently upgraded from an old Core2Duo build and has no problem playing modern games, its just everything was a little slow. A newer graphics card will make a lot of difference, and plus if you decided to get a newer pc in the future, you can use the same graphics card it that.

Your motherboard doesn't actually support 1066mhz ram, you can buy 800mhz modules and overclock it to 1066mhz but as far as I know 1066mhz modules wont work.

As for 'CL' it stands for CAS latency which the lower is better, but it wont make much of a difference in your pc.

You current graphics card is on the lower end of the midrange series and is several generations old. You best bet is to get a slightly older graphics card (It will still be a lot newer than your current card) as you can get a higher end card for cheaper, as a low end new graphics card will cost the same. I would recommend the AMD HD 5750 as its cheap and pretty powerful.

Edited by lareeth, 13 June 2012 - 09:04 AM.


#5 THRiLL KiLL

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 12:13 PM

you are not going to notice that much of a difference by upgrading your memory speed, unless you overclock.

As for the quantity. you wont notice a huge diffrence unless you are using memory intensive programs.

what i would invest in is the following.

1. video card.

2. add a ssd drive (this will give you the single most bang for your buck.)

#6 FalseAgent

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:26 PM

Nah, you're better off investing in a newer GFX card.

#7 Another_User

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 09:26 PM

@lareeth, On the box (and in the manual) is stated that it has "Native DDR2 1066 support" and it has a Quality vendor list with 1066 memory modules noted.

@THRiLL KiLL, my primary disc is a SSD (scores 7.1 on the WEI)

Thanks for the advice guys, it's really appreciated...

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#8 Another_User

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 07:29 PM

Right.. here comes,

When i was comparing prices and such (yep again) i saw an upgrade kit for €199.90

It's a dutch website but it's understandable please click here for the specs page. (EDIT: click "meer info")

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Socket 1155
Processor
Omschrijving Intel® Core™ i3 2120
Kloksnelheid 2x 3300 MHz
Level 2 Cache 2x 256 KB
Max. Stroomverbruik 65 Watt
Socket 1155


Chipset
Intel® H61 Express


Slots
PCI (32 Bit) 1
ondersteunt 33 MHz (5 Volt), 33 MHz (3,3 Volt)
PCIe 2.0 x1 2
PCIe 2.0 x16 1


Datarate 5000 MT/s


Formfactor µATX


Voeding ATX12V 2.0 (24-polig + 4-polig)


Geheugen
Maximaal 16 GB
Type SDRAM-DDR3
Sloten 2 x DDR3
Standaarden DDR3-1066, DDR3-1333, De kloksnelheid van het geheugen is afhankelijk van de geheugencontroller in de processor.
ECC-geheugen wordt ondersteund Nee
Registered-geheugen wordt ondersteund Nee
Fully Buffered vereist Nee
Geheugen aanwezig
Totaalcapaciteit 8192 MB
Aantal modules 2
Bouwvorm DIMM
Type SDRAM-DDR3
Standaard DDR3 - 1333 (PC3 - 10600)
Timings
CAS Latency (CL) 9
RAS-to-CAS-Delay (tRCD) 9
RAS-Precharge-Time (tRP) 9
Row-Active-Time (tRAS) 24
Aansluiting 240-Pin
Spanning 1,5 Volt
Spanningsbereik vanaf 1,42 Volt tot 1,58 Volt


Aansluitingen
1 x PS/2 toetsenbord
1 x 4-polig PWM koeler
2 x 3-polig koeler




SATA-Controller

Type Serial ATA
Aansluitingen intern 4 x Serial-ATA
Protocollen Serial ATA/300
Max. transferrate 300 MBps, 3,0 Gbps
Chip Intel® H61 (PCH)
Max. apparaten 4
Kanalen 4


USB-Controller
USB-Controller
Type USB 2.0
Aansluitingen extern 4 x USB-A
Protocollen USB 2.0
Max. transferrate 60 MBps
Max. apparaten 127
Kanalen 1


Onboard VGA

Vendorcode -
Grafische chip
Type CPU-Afhankelijk
Shader Model 4.0
DirectX Versie 10.0
Geheugen
Capaciteit gebruikt tot 1.759 MB van het RAM-geheugen als gedeeld geheugen
MPEG2
Weergave Ja
Encoding Nee
Directe aansluitingen
1 x HDMI
1 x DVI-D Uitgang
1 x VGA Uitgang


Onboard Sound
Chip Realtek ALC887
Ingangen
1 x Line-In
1 x microfoon
Uitgangen
4 x Line-Out
Kanalen
tot en met 8 x analoog


LAN

Omschrijving Realtek RTL8111E
Aansluitingen
1 x RJ-45 (LAN)
Transferrate
LAN 10/100/1000 Mbps


Bijzonderheden
Om de nieuwste processorkernen te ondersteunen is eventueel een BIOS-Update noodzakelijk.
Vista ready, Windows 7 ready, EFI


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Is it better then my current Asus P5K mobo with a Core2Duo E6750 2.66 ghz???

Edited by Another_User, 16 June 2012 - 07:34 PM.


#9 Kalphite

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 08:27 PM

2x4gb much cheaper...

#10 lareeth

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 11:59 AM

That's a pretty good deal, however I feel that your graphics card should be the first thing to upgrade, the graphics card will work in any future motherboard you buy.

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