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[Villain]

Ok, first off, this is a LONG DAMN ARTICLE. So i wont copy/paste it here...

But here is an article link, please, after reading it (or atleast until your eyes glaze over and you say "tl;dr!!!") Come back and discuss or debate MS's decisions. I dont expect any "MS did EVERYTHING RIGHT!!!" comments, because honestly, no one OS is the perfect OS. There is always something that needs to be, or should be changed. Anyway, please come back and discuss.

http://blogs.msdn.co...experience.aspx

EDIT Update, please see this topic as how Microsoft Officially announces "Aero is Dropped"
http://www.winmatrix...cially-dropped/

[Elijah?]

The most important part, in my opinion, being the fact that they revealed their plans on the desktop:

[FalseAgent]

looks like it's coming together very nicely, both the Desktop and Metro. I think Windows 8 will be a nice hybrid OS that really gives us the best of both worlds.

The problem is, of course, people aren't used to seeing 2 worlds on a tablet (or on their desktop).

But this looks so damn good


EDIT: something interesting here

We applied the principles of “clean and crisp” when updating window and taskbar chrome. Gone are the glass and reflections. We squared off the edges of windows and the taskbar. We removed all the glows and gradients found on buttons within the chrome. We made the appearance of windows crisper by removing unnecessary shadows and transparency.

Looks like they're killing Aero. Can't say it wasn't unexpected.

Edited by FalseAgent, 19 May 2012 - 07:32 AM.

[Elijah?]

We're definitely getting there. I'm hoping there's a visual style created that looks a bit more like the style of the Zune software's window, but still, this is better than a Aero/Metro fusion.

[Maximum Payne]

But I loved my Aero

Edited by Maximum Payne, 19 May 2012 - 10:33 AM.

[hb860]

I afraid to see Windows 1.0 like UI in RTM. Dammit. We have removed unnecessary transparency/chrome/etc
Whats next? We have removed unnecessary colors to make Windows B&W?

[Munkypoo7]

May actually stick with Windows 7.

Or just wait until someone comes out with a fully operational Aero theme. Those white-ed out windows looks beyond stupid imo.

[hb860]

I agree. I ask Mr. dUSHA to make Aero Patch for Windows 8

[Lord Devrexster]

Get Ready for THE TROLL ....... just my opinion

[The Alpha Gamer]

The most important part, in my opinion, being the fact that they revealed their plans on the desktop:

That still looks like what you get when a n00b tries to make their own .msstyle and then when they test it they see that none of the images worked.

[FalseAgent]

That still looks like what you get when a n00b tries to make their own .msstyle and then when they test it they see that none of the images worked.

...because it isn't finished yet?

[herbert7890]

I will stick with windows 7 for many years to come and thats coming from someone who has switched to the newer OS right from the BETAs. Pretty sure I'm not the only one that will follow this trend. Windows 7 is probably Windows best OS to date and they messed it big time with Windows 8.

[ThunderROM]

But I loved my Aero

Same here. Metro is good for touch but I prefer Aero for mouse/keyboard.

[Villain]

The most important part, in my opinion, being the fact that they revealed their plans on the desktop:

Why is the Taskbar still Aero, but the borders are not? Thats just shitty.

And if i want a "flat" window style, i will use the "classic" mode and change all of the 3d colors and such to one flat, uniform color.
On the other hand, it has always been know that if you want to speed up windows (WAAY back from the Windows 3.1 days) then you do this.
1 > no wallpaper, eats up refresh cycles drawing it
2 > flat colors. less resources to be used.
And now we add in (from Windows Vista)
3 > disable Aero, use Classic for more speed (amazingly enough, it is true... if your on a lower-end machine, you can notice the difference)
4 > disable desktop icons (less to draw, less resources = faster system)

So yeah, all of these are proven, but it distract and takes away to much from the average users. People Want desktop icons (not me though, i hate them), they want wallpapers (i think we all agree on that one), a majority of us like to use Aero (look at the sheer number of Aero .msstyles files + Windowblinds + borderskin) and colors, we like colors (although i do like "flat" colors, looks minimal to me

So yeah, MS is removing things that we are used to to FORCE Metro on us. Seems like to me when MS went looking for people to ask "how should windows look like" they asked the older generation that complains "fonts are to small" and "i cant see those tiny pictures on the screen that i am supposed to click on".

I propose that we call Window 8 "Windows Geriatric Edition"... because it had to be made for those with bad eyesight in mind.

[mediar]

With the latest screenshots of Windows 8's desktop, I think my Windows XP without Aero looks really fashionable.

We have moved beyond Aero Glass—flattening surfaces, removing reflections, and scaling back distracting gradients.

While it might sound really cool if you say it that way, the true is that you actually go with giant steps backward, in the history, way before desktop had any colors - Windows 3.1 times. Just compare:

Windows 3.1


Windows 8


I know, it's just the same ( I exclude the blue background in the second picture ). Microsoft, you're doing evolution wrong.

Edited by mediar, 19 May 2012 - 04:33 PM.

[Elijah?]

I know, it's just the same ( I exclude the blue background in the second picture ). Microsoft, you're doing evolution wrong.

Yeah, no. They aren't the same. There are literally no UI elements in the two images that are noticeably similar, besides the fact that the Program Manager in the 3.1 pic has a white border.

Feel free to hate on the new desktop all you want (I think it looks a little plain at the moment), but at least make sense doing it.

[mediar]

I know, it's just the same ( I exclude the blue background in the second picture ). Microsoft, you're doing evolution wrong.

Yeah, no. They aren't the same. There are literally no UI elements in the two images that are noticeably similar, besides the fact that the Program Manager in the 3.1 pic has a white border.

[celeron]

Get Ready for THE TROLL ....... just my opinion

Haha.. Damn funny..

Actually I like windows 7 very much, but I really don't like anything about windows 8, The start screen is good in look, but believe its not that good was when it comes to fast use.. it get very much confusing..

Also I am not sure about about dropping area style but I hate ribbon UI in explorer, but looks very good in MS office, but not in explorer..

In short till now i am not that excited about windows 8 as i was excited about windows 7 .. I only like the font styles and use of them in windows 8... Other then that it's looks like they are using MS paint to create them and other thing...

Edited by celeron, 21 May 2012 - 10:33 PM.

[pataoengineer]

Windows8 comprises a bunch of good idea.

But everything in their plan seems good until they have implemented.

Microsoft got it all wrong, personally. It would be much better than the way it looks.

Minimalistic is good but why wiping all connections with .NET, Aero, and all good stuffs in Windows7?