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#21 Burned Phoenix

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Posted 20 September 2009 - 02:04 PM

Will definitely give it a try.

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Posted 20 September 2009 - 04:26 PM

Classic waporware, nothing else. Who needs this Mac-GNOME hybrid anyway. Windows 7 shell is exellent.

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 03:25 AM

Oh wow... when did they first announce this? I looked at it a few months ago and then forgot about it. Definitely going to give this a try once I've got Windows 7 running. :)

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 03:54 AM

i was wondering what happened with Cairo. wonder if it will work on Windows 7?

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 04:21 AM

I've been waiting for Cairo for years, but it never finish. <_<


However, I love the way it be in the latter stage. :rolleyes:

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 04:42 AM

Is this more in the same mold as Talisman and Aston? Those were nice too, but the overhead they created was unacceptable. Can some one explain how these programs work? (scratch, scratch... I can't understand this, as shell in windows is still a mystery as in how its designed..). I know the linux arch, and how X is on top, and how KDE,Gnome and XFCE stack on top of it. (With Compiz coming over these window managers). But the setup in Windows is far from clear to me.

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 04:50 AM

it's done by magic, and replacing explorer completely like Litestep except in a very advanced way.

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 08:44 AM

i was wondering what happened with Cairo. wonder if it will work on Windows 7?


As they said, yes it will :D

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 12:51 PM

^Thats right. It will compatible with Vista/Windows 7 but not XP because now they focusing OS that people will use more in the future(predictably Windows 7 :rolleyes:).

I read on the forum, system tray function will not be included in the milestone because it is not the priority now.

Edited by zool, 21 September 2009 - 12:54 PM.


#30 DarkShot

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 06:25 PM

Yeppers, Cairo will work on Windows 7.

While it isn't supported, it will also run on XP as long as you have .NET 3.5 SP1 installed.

For those of you who do choose to give it a try, do know that all the bugs have been reported, so there won't be any reason to post a thread for an already known bug.

Again, ALL the bugs in the release you'll get ARE ALL KNOWN.

Bam. Who else is lookin forward to it or got some questions?

#31 CommonSense

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 08:05 PM

Yeppers, Cairo will work on Windows 7.

While it isn't supported, it will also run on XP as long as you have .NET 3.5 SP1 installed.

For those of you who do choose to give it a try, do know that all the bugs have been reported, so there won't be any reason to post a thread for an already known bug.

Again, ALL the bugs in the release you'll get ARE ALL KNOWN.

Bam. Who else is lookin forward to it or got some questions?

Are you a developer of Cairo? I suppose you are. Another question, why isn't the system tray a priority?

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 08:43 PM

Are you a developer of Cairo? I suppose you are. Another question, why isn't the system tray a priority?


Nope, I'm not a dev. I'm one of the testers and I've followed the project for quite some time.

I can only speculate as to why having a function full tray isn't priority, so I can't give you an answer. This particular release is one that was already released to private Alpha testers, chalked full of bug fixes from the initial milestone that was leaked. So the tray isn't fully working. The comment about the tray not being priority was one directed to an inquiry about the private beta testers will be getting. I would assume that because the taskbar is vastly lacking functionality (it works, but only to an extent), people will use the windows taskbar, and have a complete working tray there. Again, that's just my guess.

Edited by DarkShot, 21 September 2009 - 08:43 PM.


#33 CommonSense

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 08:54 PM


Are you a developer of Cairo? I suppose you are. Another question, why isn't the system tray a priority?


Nope, I'm not a dev. I'm one of the testers and I've followed the project for quite some time.

I can only speculate as to why having a function full tray isn't priority, so I can't give you an answer. This particular release is one that was already released to private Alpha testers, chalked full of bug fixes from the initial milestone that was leaked. So the tray isn't fully working. The comment about the tray not being priority was one directed to an inquiry about the private beta testers will be getting. I would assume that because the taskbar is vastly lacking functionality (it works, but only to an extent), people will use the windows taskbar, and have a complete working tray there. Again, that's just my guess.

Alright good to know. Yeah I'm sure writing a Windows shell replacement is quite hard, and so there will be a lot of bugs. And things only working to an extent in such an early phase. Eventually, I'm sure, there will be no need for the Windows taskbar and Cairo will fully cover the default shell.

Edited by CommonSense, 21 September 2009 - 08:54 PM.


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Posted 21 September 2009 - 09:01 PM

Cairo can in essence be run without the aid of explorer. It is, while being bare bones, a functioning shell. The taskbar does work. It'll catch programs running, and display them. there are just bugs that prevent it from being a (currently) effective taskbar replacement. Especially when you get used to the functionality of the Windows 7 taskbar as I have. You'll see what I mean tomorrow at lunchtime.

Edited by DarkShot, 21 September 2009 - 09:02 PM.


#35 CommonSense

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 09:02 PM

Cairo can in essence be run without the aid of explorer. It is, while being bare bones, a functioning shell. The taskbar does work. It'll catch programs running, and display them. there are just bugs that prevent it from being a (currently) effective taskbar replacement. Especially when you get used to the functionality of the Windows 7 taskbar as I have. You'll see what I mean tomorrow at lunchtime.

Yeah I'm looking forward to running it when I get home from school tomorrow. :yes:

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 09:15 PM

Nice. Thanks for the info Darkshot. Its nice to see the tester here and can give more better explanations. Its hard to get correct info now coz the forum in Cairoshell is a bit messy and most of it is quite old. :P

Edited by zool, 21 September 2009 - 09:17 PM.


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Posted 21 September 2009 - 09:16 PM

Not a problem

edit: for those in different timezones, Here's a counter you can check

Edited by DarkShot, 22 September 2009 - 12:06 PM.


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Posted 22 September 2009 - 01:37 PM

as a programmer, i will back them, you see, replicating the system tray is a hard thing to do.

i look forward to the release, and i plan on putting it through it's paces, and doing a review on it.

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 02:21 PM

It is going to be released today, wohoo!! =D like one hour left, or two :P nice nice.

#40 zool

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 03:02 PM

Is it? I don't know what is the time zone for the website. Its 11pm now in my place. :unsure:

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