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#21 komalo

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 05:40 PM

The app looks promising but I can't launch the exe :no:

Do you have .Net Framework 2.0 ?
http://www.microsoft...;DisplayLang=en

Edited by komalo, 16 April 2009 - 05:49 PM.


#22 Lefreut

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 06:04 PM

Do you have .Net Framework 2.0 ?
http://www.microsoft...;DisplayLang=en


I have .Net Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 installed.

#23 komalo

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 06:07 PM


Do you have .Net Framework 2.0 ?
http://www.microsoft...;DisplayLang=en


I have .Net Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 installed.

so is it an error message in the start or what ?
and if it is , could you please write it down here ?

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 06:21 PM

Ok ... so tried it.

Not bad at all. Isnt jerky or slow. But my XP is a very light system (hardly anything "installed") So it can have separate issues with other apps.
Apart from the fact that TruT has more skins, I see no reason in this being the better alternative. Try it. Its worth a try.

@Mohammed
Not bad buddy !! (Y) But turn off the reflections thing in the ini file. It causes the bottom part to be "bad" :( Also u need to extend the bottom part of the window-border a bit more. And also another thing is this runs better on .Net 3.5 enabled systems than on 2.0 ones. So u may list that as min requirement.

Good Work. Altho its giving some unhandled exceptions sometimes...but that will be out in 0.2 version I suppose. Keep up the good work. ;) Here's the text of the exception..

************** Exception Text **************
System.ArgumentException: Parameter is not valid.
   at System.Drawing.Bitmap..ctor(Int32 width, Int32 height, PixelFormat format)
   at System.Drawing.Bitmap..ctor(Int32 width, Int32 height)
   at System.Drawing.Icon.ToBitmap()
   at System.Drawing.Graphics.DrawIcon(Icon icon, Rectangle targetRect)
   at BorderSkin.SkinBorder.RePaint(Int32 Type, Int32 State, Int32 X, Int32 Y, Int32 Width, Int32 Height)
   at BorderSkin.SkinBorder.UpdateBorder(Object X, Object Y, Object Width, Object Height)
   at BorderSkin.SkinWindow.Move(Int32 X, Int32 Y, Int32 Width, Int32 Height)
   at BorderSkin.SkinWindow.TopMouseLeave(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnMouseLeave(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseLeave(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
   at BorderSkin.SkinBorder.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
	Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
	Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
	CodeBase: file:///c:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
Border Skin
	Assembly Version: 0.1.0.0
	Win32 Version: 0.1.0.0
	CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dev/Desktop/Border%20Skin%200.1/Border%20Skin.exe
----------------------------------------
Microsoft.VisualBasic
	Assembly Version: 8.0.0.0
	Win32 Version: 8.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
	CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Microsoft.VisualBasic/8.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll
----------------------------------------
System
	Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
	Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
	CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
	Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
	Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
	CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
	Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
	Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
	CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Runtime.Remoting
	Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
	Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
	CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Runtime.Remoting/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Runtime.Remoting.dll
----------------------------------------

edit:
Ok, attaching a screenshot to show the bottom-issue. And also another thing is borders vanish when the app is exited.

Attached File  untitled.jpg   63.23K   105 downloads

#25 Lefreut

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 06:36 PM

so is it an error message in the start or what ?
and if it is , could you please write it down here ?


Nothing, the app do not start :cry:

#26 komalo

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 06:44 PM

Ok ... so tried it.

Not bad at all. Isnt jerky or slow. But my XP is a very light system (hardly anything "installed") So it can have separate issues with other apps.
Apart from the fact that TruT has more skins, I see no reason in this being the better alternative. Try it. Its worth a try.

@Mohammed
Not bad buddy !! (Y) But turn off the reflections thing in the ini file. It causes the bottom part to be "bad" :( Also u need to extend the bottom part of the window-border a bit more. And also another thing is this runs better on .Net 3.5 enabled systems than on 2.0 ones. So u may list that as min requirement.

Good Work. Altho its giving some unhandled exceptions sometimes...but that will be out in 0.2 version I suppose. Keep up the good work. ;) Here's the text of the exception..

************** Exception Text **************
System.ArgumentException: Parameter is not valid.
   at System.Drawing.Bitmap..ctor(Int32 width, Int32 height, PixelFormat format)
   at System.Drawing.Bitmap..ctor(Int32 width, Int32 height)
   at System.Drawing.Icon.ToBitmap()
   at System.Drawing.Graphics.DrawIcon(Icon icon, Rectangle targetRect)
   at BorderSkin.SkinBorder.RePaint(Int32 Type, Int32 State, Int32 X, Int32 Y, Int32 Width, Int32 Height)
   at BorderSkin.SkinBorder.UpdateBorder(Object X, Object Y, Object Width, Object Height)
   at BorderSkin.SkinWindow.Move(Int32 X, Int32 Y, Int32 Width, Int32 Height)
   at BorderSkin.SkinWindow.TopMouseLeave(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnMouseLeave(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseLeave(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
   at BorderSkin.SkinBorder.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
	Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
	Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
	CodeBase: file:///c:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
Border Skin
	Assembly Version: 0.1.0.0
	Win32 Version: 0.1.0.0
	CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dev/Desktop/Border%20Skin%200.1/Border%20Skin.exe
----------------------------------------
Microsoft.VisualBasic
	Assembly Version: 8.0.0.0
	Win32 Version: 8.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
	CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Microsoft.VisualBasic/8.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll
----------------------------------------
System
	Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
	Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
	CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
	Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
	Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
	CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
	Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
	Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
	CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Runtime.Remoting
	Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
	Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
	CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Runtime.Remoting/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Runtime.Remoting.dll
----------------------------------------

edit:
Ok, attaching a screenshot to show the bottom-issue. And also another thing is borders vanish when the app is exited.

Attached File  untitled.jpg   63.23K   105 downloads


Thank you for this beautiful review
i will fix the bottom-issue in the next version
border skin themes will be fully compatible with truetransparency themes
for the reflection you mean to delete the feature or just turn it off ?
and what do you mean "borders vanish when the app is exited"


Nothing, the app do not start :cry:

you can try downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 http://www.microsoft...31-508D977D32A6
Lord Devrexster says that the program works better with it

Edited by komalo, 16 April 2009 - 06:44 PM.


#27 SamiWiecieKto

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 06:45 PM

you are right , since monitoring windows messages is very dangerous but at least i am trying to decrease the ratio of errors and crashes that may happen

Watching stream not, handling is a problem. Not to mention hooks put much strain on system - one shouldn't use it if there are other ways...it's even advised so if You search well. :)

not to mention that WindowBlinds uses injected hook

They might - never put to much attention to that...though actually as they are working with MS - probably have other advanced methods and more safe.

has nothing to do with me

and? :D

this the fisrt version (0.1) , Seriously what did You expect of it ?

Again it wasn't for You - and the meaning of the sentence was same as Yours above: it's early version, and from version count shouldn't be considered as stable.

again has nothing to do with me

Glad, You noticed that :)

i was asking about .Net Framwork version ,but since your are a VB.net C#, C++ programmer
i don't think that you will have a problem with starting a vb.net program on your computer .
at least since some one did , also i develop in VB.NET , C++

I would give a lecture of .NET bugs and compatibility - but even I keep somethings secret, right? ;)

I have .Net Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 installed.

*Me imagining it as action description in a thriller book* Lefreut for sure didn't expect such question... :rofl:

you can try downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 http://www.microsoft...31-508D977D32A6
Lord Devrexster says that the program works better with it

Quiz question - guess why... xD if Lefreut, Devrexster, Villain won't know answer I will gladly answer via PM :)

Edited by SamiWiecieKto, 16 April 2009 - 06:49 PM.


#28 komalo

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 06:55 PM

*Me imagining it as action description in a thriller book* Lefreut for sure didn't expect such question... :rofl:

:D hahaha

Quiz question - guess why... xD if Lefreut, Devrexster, Villain won't know answer I will gladly answer via PM :)

before i answer that's if i know the answer , i want to know the program worked with you

Edited by komalo, 16 April 2009 - 06:56 PM.


#29 Lefreut

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 07:09 PM

you can try downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 http://www.microsoft...31-508D977D32A6
Lord Devrexster says that the program works better with it


Already installed.

#30 SamiWiecieKto

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 07:32 PM

before i answer that's if i know the answer , i want to know the program worked with you

nah didn't - but I've notepaded it, reading ~Devrexster bug report is also enough.

Already installed.

If I might notice You are especially active Lefreut today, since 2007 You got only 27 posts? :) Which means that around 10% were posted today. :P

#31 Lord Devrexster

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 07:50 PM

If I might notice You are especially active Lefreut today, since 2007 You got only 27 posts? :) Which means that around 10% were posted today. :P


I think Lefreut is the developer of TrueT.

Brand competition ... hehe ?? :D :P :ph34r:

#32 SamiWiecieKto

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 08:04 PM

I think Lefreut is the developer of TrueT.

That's why I'm having so much fun :P :whistle: :rolleyes:

Brand competition ... hehe ?? :D :P :ph34r:

xD

More seriously - I doubt anyone can do something to His position, TT is good software. Maybe not matching my interests, but good enough for average user. :)
Posted Image


Lucky I went into other direction - so actually we shouldn't, won't compete on window borders transparency software field...skinning ;) (and now everyone starts wondering what will be is in 9 xD)

Edited by SamiWiecieKto, 16 April 2009 - 08:06 PM.


#33 Skrell

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 08:26 PM

this is GREAT!!!!! please keep up the good work! for a .1 release i was truly blown away! FAR FAR better than fastaero!

Edited by Skrell, 16 April 2009 - 08:26 PM.


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Posted 16 April 2009 - 08:27 PM

This is very good for a first release (beta) an obviously won't be as fast or stable as True Transparency but I have to say its one or the best program to get the blur. It's also really good on memory using LESS that 10 mb with blur enabled.

Great job and hope the creator continues to work on this and make it better.

#35 Lord Devrexster

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 09:24 PM

Thank you for this beautiful review
i will fix the bottom-issue in the next version
border skin themes will be fully compatible with truetransparency themes
for the reflection you mean to delete the feature or just turn it off ?
and what do you mean "borders vanish when the app is exited"


What I mean is, the window borders that the program renderred completely vanish when I exit the program. There is no border for those particular windows anymore.

But windows which get created AFTER the program is exited are back to normal.

#36 SamiWiecieKto

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 09:31 PM



Thank you for this beautiful review
i will fix the bottom-issue in the next version
border skin themes will be fully compatible with truetransparency themes
for the reflection you mean to delete the feature or just turn it off ?
and what do you mean "borders vanish when the app is exited"


What I mean is, the window borders that the program renderred completely vanish when I exit the program. There is no border for those particular windows anymore.

But windows which get created AFTER the program is exited are back to normal.

If You will ask me nicely I could post image...or video of what will be in NV9 Posted Image

except I have test retake tomorrow :(

Edited by SamiWiecieKto, 16 April 2009 - 09:32 PM.


#37 Syzygy

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 12:43 AM

Might I suggest, and Exclusion list; where you list down all the .exe's that should not be skinned. i.e. Photoshop.

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 06:07 AM

this is GREAT!!!!! please keep up the good work! for a .1 release i was truly blown away! FAR FAR better than fastaero!


This is very good for a first release (beta) an obviously won't be as fast or stable as True Transparency but I have to say its one or the best program to get the blur. It's also really good on memory using LESS that 10 mb with blur enabled.

Great job and hope the creator continues to work on this and make it better.


thank you all :D

What I mean is, the window borders that the program renderred completely vanish when I exit the program. There is no border for those particular windows anymore.

But windows which get created AFTER the program is exited are back to normal.


that isn't suppose to happen unless the program crashed or stopped from the process, otherwise it exits normally from the tray icon ,any way i will try to monitor the program crashing and to restore the border if it happen

Might I suggest, and Exclusion list; where you list down all the .exe's that should not be skinned. i.e. Photoshop.

great suggestion , definitely will be in the next version

Edited by komalo, 17 April 2009 - 06:08 AM.


#39 coldemone

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 07:03 AM

Gambare komalo-kun demo tsukaunai

(i bet this is wrong japanese but at i tried)

#40 coldemone

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 10:16 AM

Like FastAero, it has a psychedelic way of resizing and sometimes stick around in the wrong position.

The blur is great though it's different to aero and fastAero, looks more like foggy winshields than unfocused cameras.

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