54 replies to this topic

[Mike1287]

Cairo is still an alpha. The reason it was a private one was to avoid people prematurely writing it off, when the fact of the matter is it's not even 50% finished yet.

[Eye Pie Rate]

Its still shit.
Nothing like what they said it would be, not even 1%

THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU BUILD THAT MUCH HYPE *HINT HINT HINT YANIKE*

Edited by Eye Pie Rate, 18 January 2009 - 07:53 PM.

[Mike1287]

Your ignorance is showing.

[imsobored17]

Your ignorance is showing.

no yours is

it was annoced like what june 2007? years of dev time and we get this

[Eye Pie Rate]

Correct, Villain has nearly achieved more than this on his OWN in half a month than they have in 18 months.

[Dremin]

Development actually started in June 2008 and heavy development didn't really even start until September. This is very alpha and has next to no features of what we plan for 1.0. The alpha includes more than "just a menu." We have currently implemented the menubar, stacks alternative, system tray, clock/calendar, search, programs menu, and taskbar.

This alpha was released so we can get the bugs of the base code out before pileing on the features. We have found a lot of bugs and have fixed many of them already. It runs in Windows 7, Vista, and XP, both 32-bit and 64-bit.

I would compare this to Windows 7 M1 (as in the leaked 6519 build). What was new? A few things were moved, a couple of apps bundled, and they made a couple things look different. It was just a start.

Edited by Dremin, 18 January 2009 - 08:25 PM.

[fediaFedia]

Development actually started in June 2008 and heavy development didn't really even start until September.

http://www.cairoshel...testing-signup/
Cairo Milestone 1 Testing Signup Published February 6th, 2008

Edit: The Manolis something project was started even earlier than cairo

Edited by fediaFedia, 18 January 2009 - 08:26 PM.

[Dremin]

Development actually started in June 2008 and heavy development didn't really even start until September.

http://www.cairoshel...testing-signup/
Cairo Milestone 1 Testing Signup Published February 6th, 2008

We had been told by our single developer back then that we would have a build for February. We think he might have died. We lost his work because of that, and it took us quite a while to get started again. We now have 5 people on the team developing.

[Eye Pie Rate]

Development actually started in June 2008 and heavy development didn't really even start until September. This is very alpha and has next to no features of what we plan for 1.0. The alpha includes more than "just a menu." We have currently implemented the menubar, stacks alternative, system tray, clock/calendar, search, programs menu, and taskbar.

This alpha was released so we can get the bugs of the base code out before pileing on the features. We have found a lot of bugs and have fixed many of them already. It runs in Windows 7, Vista, and XP, both 32-bit and 64-bit.

I would compare this to Windows 7 M1 (as in the leaked 6519 build). What was new? A few things were moved, a couple of apps bundled, and they made a couple things look different. It was just a start.

September, you still should have been well past this point.
And FYI, it DOES NOT WORK in Vista 64-Bit.
It doesn't even start.

In Windows 7 64-Bit it crashes after you open ANYTHING
In Windows 7 32-Bit it works(ish) but the task thing is unuseable.
I cannot see anyone getting used to this, you really need to fix it or start from scratch.

And at least Windows 7 M1 worked.

[Dremin]

Development actually started in June 2008 and heavy development didn't really even start until September. This is very alpha and has next to no features of what we plan for 1.0. The alpha includes more than "just a menu." We have currently implemented the menubar, stacks alternative, system tray, clock/calendar, search, programs menu, and taskbar.

This alpha was released so we can get the bugs of the base code out before pileing on the features. We have found a lot of bugs and have fixed many of them already. It runs in Windows 7, Vista, and XP, both 32-bit and 64-bit.

I would compare this to Windows 7 M1 (as in the leaked 6519 build). What was new? A few things were moved, a couple of apps bundled, and they made a couple things look different. It was just a start.

September, you still should have been well past this point.
And FYI, it DOES NOT WORK in Vista 64-Bit.
It doesn't even start.

In Windows 7 64-Bit it crashes after you open ANYTHING
In Windows 7 32-Bit it works(ish) but the task thing is unuseable.
I cannot see anyone getting used to this, you really need to fix it or start from scratch.

And at least Windows 7 M1 worked.

Cairo does work, and like I said, it is very buggy. If this were indeed a beta, then yes I would understand your being disappointed. This is an ALPHA, the FIRST step in the process. We have fixed all of the crash bugs internally and will be releasing another M1 build soon. Most of the crashes have indeed been happening at initialization.
We have had many, many reports of it working just fine on Vista, XP, and 7 64-bit installs. You have just happened to hit a (now fixed) bug.

[Eye Pie Rate]

I still see vaporware.
and it doesnt work on 64-bit vista.
and its compleltly unusabbe on windows 7

also, damn the windows taks list... its f**kign shitty, seriously, im not talking about bug or perfomance wise, but feature wise, its not useable.

[Dremin]

I still see vaporware.
and it doesnt work on 64-bit vista.
and its compleltly unusabbe on windows 7

also, damn the windows taks list... its f**kign shitty, seriously, im not talking about bug or perfomance wise, but feature wise, its not useable.

Clearly you have n interest in Cairo, so I'll take this as your loss and move on.

[Eye Pie Rate]

I HAD interest in cairo, but i've lost it now after this.
I will continue trying it... but as long as that window tasking feature is there, it is rendered useless to me.

[DarkShot]

I HAD interest in cairo, but i've lost it now after this.
I will continue trying it... but as long as that window tasking feature is there, it is rendered useless to me.

It was meant to be a private alpha for a reason.

It's completely fine if you don't feel it's useable, as its not done.

But calling it Vaporware even after you have a bare bones functional alpha is like calling a new house with no guts and furniture non-existent.

It's physically there, and while it can't be fully used for what it's intended for, its there, and does serve a purpose.

[kyosan]

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Theres the link.
Its a free app anyway...

Edit:

It doesn't work in 64-bit systems.
Gay.

Thanks for the link

[Villain]

ok, i got the download, and it crashed in XP. i mean, did not even start. I have .net 2 installed, it need 3, 3.5 mabey?

I can understand how it is to be doing a big project with just one developer ... i do it all the time. and yeah, it aint easy. but then again, while i like sharing the app, i hate sharing my code.

If Cario is for any .net version that 2, then your making a mistake. no one wants to download 15 Mb worth of runtimes just for one app. Because Vista has 2.0 integrated naturally, use that.

just my 2cents.

[kyosan]

ok, i got the download, and it crashed in XP. i mean, did not even start. I have .net 2 installed, it need 3, 3.5 mabey?

I can understand how it is to be doing a big project with just one developer ... i do it all the time. and yeah, it aint easy. but then again, while i like sharing the app, i hate sharing my code.

If Cario is for any .net version that 2, then your making a mistake. no one wants to download 15 Mb worth of runtimes just for one app. Because Vista has 2.0 integrated naturally, use that.

just my 2cents.

crash with my Xp I've installed .net Framework 1.0 >3.5 I will try on Vista

Edited by kyosan, 19 January 2009 - 06:35 AM.

[Eye Pie Rate]

Cairo does work

apparently you are all wrong and this guy is right.
IT DOES WORK GUYS!

[kyosan]

Work on my Vista. It has some bug but nice app for desktop This app makes your windows look like mac os

[Jatin]

@Eye Pie Rate
I have removed the link. Don't upload it again please.

Michael Ciarlo, the founder Cairo just told me that the file is copyrighted by the Cairo Shell Development Team and was meant for private testing only.