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new Tophaz v0.2 released Rly small app that try to bring more life & usability to desktop Rate Topic: ****- 1 Votes

#1 User is offline   SamiWiecieKto Icon

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Post icon  Posted 18 August 2008 - 08:05 AM

Check this thread for newest Tophaz 0.3 :ph34r:

Btw, might some Admin/Mod join threads?

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Posted 18 August 2008 - 08:29 AM

It's a great program to get transparecy on non-aero systems :)
But you should consider making some screenshots of your application too.
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Posted 18 August 2008 - 08:35 AM

View PostfediaFedia, on Aug 18 2008, 10:29 AM, said:

It's a great program to get transparecy on non-aero systems :)

Thanks and transparency is just first effect - global goal is to offer various ones :)

View PostfediaFedia, on Aug 18 2008, 10:29 AM, said:

But you should consider making some screenshots of your application too.

Maybe when 0.3 will be released... then it will be necessary to visualize changes - but now? I guess I'm to shy person to post my own desktop screen shots and let everyone see what programs I use - I respect my privacy ;)

Though good point.
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Posted 18 August 2008 - 08:55 AM

Nice ;) ! Can you make transparent background but icon is not transparent like windowblinds?? You know what I mean??
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Posted 18 August 2008 - 09:42 AM

ok, bug-report time.
the start menu on my XP system shows up as only a shadow, no UI to it. this is due to the UpdateWindowsLayer API, you should do a FormOnTop call some where in there i think.

interesting effect though, but i think that all they you really did was hook in the mouse's X and Y position through a timer, and see if windows has hWnd focus, then call the fade in sub / timer, same for fade out sub / timer.

yeah, i have this annoying habit of analyzing an app. funny thing is that i am generally right. this should have taken you only 1 day in VB to make, due to the being excessive amounts of code documentation and API documentation.
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Posted 18 August 2008 - 10:15 AM

View Postkyosan, on Aug 18 2008, 10:55 AM, said:

Nice ;) ! Can you make transparent background but icon is not transparent like windowblinds?? You know what I mean??


Not even a clue :huh:

View PostSolo, on Aug 18 2008, 11:42 AM, said:

ok, bug-report time.

Yey :D

View PostSolo, on Aug 18 2008, 11:42 AM, said:

the start menu on my XP system shows up as only a shadow, no UI to it.

I possibly know what You mean, but mind You post some screenshot? You know I've only tested this app on Vista (to lazy to bring my XP notebook from shelve ^-^') I'm wasn't even sure if Vista and XP share same name for start menu control xD

View PostSolo, on Aug 18 2008, 11:42 AM, said:

this is due to the UpdateWindowsLayer API, you should do a FormOnTop call some where in there i think.

hmm...bringing on top was removed during development, but I'll roll it back then - it seemed it isn't required at all as everything worked fine on Vista without it

View PostSolo, on Aug 18 2008, 11:42 AM, said:

interesting effect though, but i think that all they you really did was hook in the mouse's X and Y position through a timer, and see if windows has hWnd focus, then call the fade in sub / timer, same for fade out sub / timer.

Yup timer, I decided to leave perspective of using mouse hook for future versions(especially when this solution works). About mechanism - is far more complicated, such loop You mention would consume more CPU power doing exactly the same as current solution does :)

and there is only 1 global timer. ;) Let's hope in future I will also change window detecting to win hook via WS_SHELL :D

View PostSolo, on Aug 18 2008, 11:42 AM, said:

yeah, i have this annoying habit of analyzing an app. funny thing is that i am generally right.

Nah, not annoying at all - quite handy and helpful for developer, as long as You don't try disassemble ;)

View PostSolo, on Aug 18 2008, 11:42 AM, said:

this should have taken you only 1 day in VB to make, due to the being excessive amounts of code documentation and API documentation.

To disappoint You - it didn't took 1 day, optimization of code and finding working api call functions isn't so easy, and especially getting idea how to combine all that together. Anyway, still AFAIK no one was mad enough to do this before to such state - so point for me :lol:

P.s.: I prefer to write low CPU & low memory programs with optimized code - non-direct way of achieving some results isn't what I intend. Unhappily sometimes is the easiest and fastest way - which performance doesn't differ so much from more sophisticated solutions to disqualify it.

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Posted 18 August 2008 - 01:18 PM

Really great program for Vista Basic users but it would have been great if you've added some screenshots of the transparency effects. :)
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Posted 19 August 2008 - 04:58 AM

Wow, nice program. Welcome to WinMatrix SamiWiecieKto.
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Posted 19 August 2008 - 07:18 AM

you may want to take a look in to vbaccelerator's hires timer control, it is much better than vb's normal timer, or you can look in to doing a custom gettick timer...

and i cannot reproduce the black menu timer issue, so never mind :D
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Posted 19 August 2008 - 07:37 AM

View PostSolo, on Aug 19 2008, 09:18 AM, said:

you may want to take a look in to vbaccelerator's hires timer control, it is much better than vb's normal timer, or you can look in to doing a custom gettick timer...

and i cannot reproduce the black menu timer issue, so never mind :D

Main reason why it doesn't take 1 day is that I write everything from scratch by myself - 0.3 as being now rewritten from scratch will using hooks (still I have feeling it takes more CPU)

Simple sub with loop and system.thread.sleep would possibly work as well.
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Post icon  Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:48 AM

Cool man Cool !!!

Brings back memories when I did bLend

but seems like the fading thing suffers from a problem where the fade-in occurs twice when I bring a window to the top. Same problem which my another program Lebendig faces .... :(

Oh ! and welcome to Winmatrix. And I cannot wait for u to iron all the small problems in this program. U know it becomes problematic to work with if ur windows keep on fading in fading out in an unexpected way.
But once u perfect this app its surely a keeper.

And u shud maintain a list of programs like I did in bLend. Thats a very neccessary thing. :yes:

Great work !! Keep on....
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Posted 19 August 2008 - 10:04 PM

View PostLord Devrexster, on Aug 19 2008, 11:48 AM, said:

Cool man Cool !!!

Brings back memories when I did bLend

but seems like the fading thing suffers from a problem where the fade-in occurs twice when I bring a window to the top. Same problem which my another program Lebendig faces .... :(

Oh ! and welcome to Winmatrix. And I cannot wait for u to iron all the small problems in this program. U know it becomes problematic to work with if ur windows keep on fading in fading out in an unexpected way.
But once u perfect this app its surely a keeper.

And u shud maintain a list of programs like I did in bLend. Thats a very neccessary thing. :yes:

Great work !! Keep on....

Man...nvm

Anyway, You are great programmer too - I've checked Your apps, and there are really professional! :D

Currently I'm rewriting whole code from scratch - and most of problems will be eliminated. ;) 0.3 shall be a way different from earlier versions.
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Posted 27 August 2008 - 10:21 PM

Added 0.3 RC new options GUI preview...
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Posted 28 August 2008 - 06:34 AM

It seems a pretty cool app. Keep up the great work! (Y)
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