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Posted 12 April 2008 - 01:16 AM

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User Account Control is easily one of the most hated features of Windows Vista, according to readers. The seemingly endless stream of UAC pop-ups, asking you to confirm this action or that action, just get in the way (and aren't particularly zippy, given the screen redraw). Others don't mind UAC, but there's no doubt it's a controversial "feature" of the OS.

At the RSA 2008 confab in San Francisco, Microsoft admitted that UAC was designed, in fact, to annoy. Microsoft's David Cross came out and said so: "The reason we put UAC into the platform was to annoy users. I'm serious," said Cross.

What makes UAC annoying is that it's a half-breed of sorts. UAC is not a security barrier, which is one of the reasons why users hate it: they don't see the point in a process elevation alert box that asks you to click "OK," as opposed to inputting a password when you're an admin.

If you've tired of those "A program needs your permission to continue" warnings in Windows Vista then you can turn the UAC off through Vista's control panel, or modify it with TweakUAC.

News source: Arstechnica
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 01:31 AM

http://cid-ab9de24be...uiet%20Mode.zip

I have a reghack for those who don't care to use TweakUAC.
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 02:40 AM

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At the RSA 2008 confab in San Francisco, Microsoft admitted that UAC was designed, in fact, to annoy. Microsoft's David Cross came out and said so: "The reason we put UAC into the platform was to annoy users. I'm serious," said Cross.


what funny Cross!!!!

did you see guys? (bad)Vista suc.............. :D

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UAC is not a security barrier


Did you see guys? Vista isn't more secure than XP

:whistle:
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 03:28 AM

I highly doubt he would've said that any other day than April Fools.
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 03:36 AM

View PostGforce20, on Apr 12 2008, 03:28 AM, said:

I highly doubt he would've said that any other day than April Fools.



Why did the original poster leave out the paragraph after the Cross quote? Sure does change the tone of the article.

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User Account Control is easily one of the most hated features of Windows Vista, according to readers. The seemingly endless stream of UAC pop-ups, asking you to confirm this action or that action, just get in the way (and aren't particularly zippy, given the screen redraw). Others don't mind UAC, but there's no doubt it's a controversial "feature" of the OS.

At the RSA 2008 confab in San Francisco, Microsoft admitted that UAC was designed, in fact, to annoy. Microsoft's David Cross came out and said so: "The reason we put UAC into the platform was to annoy users. I'm serious," said Cross.

This isn't a total revelation. UAC was designed to get in your face; it's all about that "hey, you sure about that bauddy?", second-guessing thing. It's a less intimidating, less entertaining version of Clint Eastwood saying, "do you feel lucky, punk?" All this because you wanted to do something unimpressive like view all running processes on your system or install GAIM.

What makes UAC annoying is that it's a half-breed of sorts. UAC is not a security barrier, which is one of the reasons why users hate it: they don't see the point in a process elevation alert box that asks you to click "OK," as opposed to inputting a password when you're an admin.

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 04:10 AM

...I can't believe this. I think they're just caving in. Just like how they removed the search from sp1 due to all the pressure from other people.
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 05:40 AM

He was kidding.
UAC really make OS more secure. Thing is that many users do not understand that.
UAC makes system more secure this way:
If user tries to launch application that needs administrator rights, popup shows up and user clicks OK. If some kind of malware tries to do something, that requires administrator rights, it simple can't (because of UAC), even if user is logged in as administrator.
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 06:43 AM

View Postkaironxp, on Apr 12 2008, 08:10 AM, said:

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At the RSA 2008 confab in San Francisco, Microsoft admitted that UAC was designed, in fact, to annoy. Microsoft's David Cross came out and said so: "The reason we put UAC into the platform was to annoy users. I'm serious," said Cross.


what funny Cross!!!!

did you see guys? (bad)Vista suc.............. :D

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UAC is not a security barrier


Did you see guys? Vista isn't more secure than XP

:whistle:


Honestly, do you even know how to use Computers??? :blink:
Why don't you remain in your own world, you'll feel a lot better, and more importantly, others over here will feel a lot better!
and for everyone's sake, stop quoting in large fonts...it won't make your point more important than others...and people are not blind here.

Ohh...and how much I loved the way you avoided all those attacks at you in some threads... <_< or its just that you couldnt come up with some relevant arguments!!! :P
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 08:55 AM

UAC is really annoying and I've disabled it already! <_<
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 02:01 PM

The first day I got Vista I disabled the UAC feature, something that annoying is really one of a kind!
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Post icon  Posted 12 April 2008 - 02:03 PM

View Postkaironxp, on Apr 12 2008, 10:40 AM, said:

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At the RSA 2008 confab in San Francisco, Microsoft admitted that UAC was designed, in fact, to annoy. Microsoft's David Cross came out and said so: "The reason we put UAC into the platform was to annoy users. I'm serious," said Cross.


what funny Cross!!!!

did you see guys? (bad)Vista suc.............. :D

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UAC is not a security barrier


Did you see guys? Vista isn't more secure than XP

:whistle:

Do you think you HAD ENOUGH WITH THIS? :angry:
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 02:23 PM

View PostM!W, on Apr 12 2008, 02:01 PM, said:

The first day I got Vista I disabled the UAC feature, something that annoying is really one of a kind!


yes the first day that a run Vista, i must log in as "administrator" i hate UAC :punk:
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Post icon  Posted 12 April 2008 - 02:36 PM

View PostAbhi, on Apr 12 2008, 06:43 AM, said:

View Postkaironxp, on Apr 12 2008, 08:10 AM, said:

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At the RSA 2008 confab in San Francisco, Microsoft admitted that UAC was designed, in fact, to annoy. Microsoft's David Cross came out and said so: "The reason we put UAC into the platform was to annoy users. I'm serious," said Cross.


what funny Cross!!!!

did you see guys? (bad)Vista suc.............. :D

Quote

UAC is not a security barrier


Did you see guys? Vista isn't more secure than XP

:whistle:


Honestly, do you even know how to use Computers??? :blink:
Why don't you remain in your own world, you'll feel a lot better, and more importantly, others over here will feel a lot better!
and for everyone's sake, stop quoting in large fonts...it won't make your point more important than others...and people are not blind here.

Ohh...and how much I loved the way you avoided all those attacks at you in some threads... <_< or its just that you couldnt come up with some relevant arguments!!! :P



WTF!!! you are extremely "nerd" buddy

So, you work for Microsoft letme tell you something, actually i'm making money unistalling Vista for many laptop, smart people knows that Vista is the worst Microsoft Operating System. Only dummies and little boy or girls use it.

Many people dont wont spend much money on a "super computer or laptop" just to see mail, works with excel or word, chat with friend, see some movies or pictures.

So what Vista offer, nothing special. Vista is so insecure as XP

many people buy lowend laptop, because with a celeron M, 512ram, 120gbHD it's enough to works with excel, word, chat with friend. For example a ASUS EEPC do that !!! and ASUS know that, buddy

Microsoft has MARKETING MYIOPIA, do you know that, buddy??? do you???

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Marketing myopia [u]is a term used in marketing as well as the title of an important marketing paper written by Theodore Levitt.[1] This paper was published in the Harvard Business Review; a journal of which he was an editor.

Some commentators have suggested that its publication marked the beginning of the modern marketing movement. Its theme is that the vision of most organizations is too constricted by a narrow understanding of what business they are in. It exhorted CEOs to re-examine their corporate vision; and redefine their markets in terms of wider perspectives. It was successful in its impact because it was, as with all of Levitt's work, essentially practical and pragmatic. Organizations found that they had been missing opportunities which were plain to see once they adopted the wider view. The paper was influential. The oil companies (which represented one of his main examples in the paper) redefined their business as energy rather than just petroleum; although Royal Dutch Shell, which embarked upon an investment program in nuclear power, subsequently regretted this course of action.

One reason that short sightedness is so common is that people feel that they can not accurately predict the future. While this is a legitimate concern, it is also possible to use a whole range of business prediction techniques currently available to estimate future circumstances as best as possible.

There is a greater scope of opportunities as the industry changes. It trains managers to look beyond their current business activities and think "outside the box". George Steiner (1979) claims that if a buggy whip manufacturer in 1910 defined its business as the "transportation starter business", they might have been able to make the creative leap necessary to move into the automobile business when technological change demanded it.

People who focus on marketing strategy, various predictive techniques, and the customer's lifetime value can rise above myopia to a certain extent. This can entail the use of long-term profit objectives (sometimes at the risk of sacrificing short term objectives).

Others have developed similar terms. Kotler and Singh (1981) coined the term "marketing hyperopia", by which they mean a better vision of distant issues than of near ones. Baughman (1974) uses the term "marketing macropia" meaning an overly broad view of your industry.

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Post icon  Posted 12 April 2008 - 03:00 PM

View Postkaironxp, on Apr 12 2008, 05:36 AM, said:

View PostAbhi, on Apr 12 2008, 06:43 AM, said:

View Postkaironxp, on Apr 12 2008, 08:10 AM, said:

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At the RSA 2008 confab in San Francisco, Microsoft admitted that UAC was designed, in fact, to annoy. Microsoft's David Cross came out and said so: "The reason we put UAC into the platform was to annoy users. I'm serious," said Cross.


what funny Cross!!!!

did you see guys? (bad)Vista suc.............. :D

Quote

UAC is not a security barrier


Did you see guys? Vista isn't more secure than XP

:whistle:


Honestly, do you even know how to use Computers??? :blink:
Why don't you remain in your own world, you'll feel a lot better, and more importantly, others over here will feel a lot better!
and for everyone's sake, stop quoting in large fonts...it won't make your point more important than others...and people are not blind here.

Ohh...and how much I loved the way you avoided all those attacks at you in some threads... <_< or its just that you couldnt come up with some relevant arguments!!! :P



WTF!!! you are extremely "nerd" buddy

So, you work for Microsoft letme tell you something, actually i'm making money unistalling Vista for many laptop, smart people knows that Vista is the worst Microsoft Operating System. Only dummies and little boy or girls use it.

Many people dont wont spend much money on a "super computer or laptop" just to see mail, works with excel or word, chat with friend, see some movies or pictures.

So what Vista offer, nothing special. Vista is so insecure as XP

many people buy lowend laptop, because with a celeron M, 512ram, 120gbHD it's enough to works with excel, word, chat with friend. For example a ASUS EEPC do that !!! and ASUS know that, buddy

Microsoft has MARKETING MYIOPIA, do you know that, buddy??? do you???

Quote

Marketing myopia [u]is a term used in marketing as well as the title of an important marketing paper written by Theodore Levitt.[1] This paper was published in the Harvard Business Review; a journal of which he was an editor.

Some commentators have suggested that its publication marked the beginning of the modern marketing movement. Its theme is that the vision of most organizations is too constricted by a narrow understanding of what business they are in. It exhorted CEOs to re-examine their corporate vision; and redefine their markets in terms of wider perspectives. It was successful in its impact because it was, as with all of Levitt's work, essentially practical and pragmatic. Organizations found that they had been missing opportunities which were plain to see once they adopted the wider view. The paper was influential. The oil companies (which represented one of his main examples in the paper) redefined their business as energy rather than just petroleum; although Royal Dutch Shell, which embarked upon an investment program in nuclear power, subsequently regretted this course of action.

One reason that short sightedness is so common is that people feel that they can not accurately predict the future. While this is a legitimate concern, it is also possible to use a whole range of business prediction techniques currently available to estimate future circumstances as best as possible.

There is a greater scope of opportunities as the industry changes. It trains managers to look beyond their current business activities and think "outside the box". George Steiner (1979) claims that if a buggy whip manufacturer in 1910 defined its business as the "transportation starter business", they might have been able to make the creative leap necessary to move into the automobile business when technological change demanded it.

People who focus on marketing strategy, various predictive techniques, and the customer's lifetime value can rise above myopia to a certain extent. This can entail the use of long-term profit objectives (sometimes at the risk of sacrificing short term objectives).

Others have developed similar terms. Kotler and Singh (1981) coined the term "marketing hyperopia", by which they mean a better vision of distant issues than of near ones. Baughman (1974) uses the term "marketing macropia" meaning an overly broad view of your industry.


hes back, ban him from the vista forum or better yet winmatrix as a whole jatin

This post has been edited by manbearpig16: 12 April 2008 - 03:01 PM

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 05:37 PM

@manbearpig16,
no buddy, don't talk about banning kaironxp, sometimes it becomes so hectic working all day long, and you see, the arguments and talks of kaironxp do make me laugh... :P
we need someone to make ourselves feel lighter, and there is no better way reading those "funny" posts!
Don't take it seriously dude...and then it's fun. :D
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