[FireStarter]

Hi everyone, I've released NAPALM some days ago. If you've seen Compiz, it's similar to its Fire plugin. If you haven't, it allows drawing using fire ink over a desktop, to leave notes, add fire to a background or just for the fun of it.

NAPALM

This post has been edited by FireStarter: 04 March 2008 - 07:02 PM

[electricshock81]

COOL!

[SharmanNet]

Dude, it looks awesome!

[walexxx]

HELL YEAH !!!!

I've been waiting for this for windows! very soon the whole compiz fusion thing will be used on windows ala Wompiz..waiting for that

with this i can scare ppl by telling them to **** off whilst im away! n what better way than with flames?

[pauldacheez]

I hope you're planning on making a Mac version.............

[ThunderROM]

FireStarter your work is amazing but I don't like the "Linux Sucks" video.
Welcome to WinMatrix.

This post has been edited by ThunderROM: 04 March 2008 - 10:02 PM

[FireStarter]

ThunderROM, on Mar 4 2008, 11:01 PM, said:

FireStarter your work is amazing but I don't like the "Linux Sucks" video.
Welcome to WinMatrix.

well I'm not a linux user, and I don't think that linux sucks, it was only an answer to that video (see the first link in the page) using Compiz to write that Windows sucks

Plus, Compiz can't suck, it looks a lot better than what we can do in Windows right now. Only problem.. it's not Windows

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I hope you're planning on making a Mac version.............

I'm afraid not

This post has been edited by FireStarter: 05 March 2008 - 08:30 AM

[FireStarter]

Please post screenshots of your uses or data files in my forum btw, so that it doesn't look dumb with its 2 little posts.
If I get cool screenshots I will add them to the main page, or link to a better movie.
The single screenshot sucks because it's using a Windows default wallpaper, I would use better ones but I'd avoid it for legal reasons.

This post has been edited by FireStarter: 04 March 2008 - 11:39 PM

[HingVista]

It looks really cool. I'll give it a try..

[Razor VinT]

Hehe, really nice effects. Well done Mr. FireStarter

[ShamusHand]

Very cool, me and my friends really liked it.

[Fraxtil]

ThunderROM, on Mar 4 2008, 03:01 PM, said:

FireStarter your work is amazing but I don't like the "Linux Sucks" video.
Welcome to WinMatrix.

Yeah, I can't say I liked the video either, but it's certainly a wonderful program.

[The Silent Warrior]

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is useless, thus absolutely necessary. Ok, maybe you can use it to leave notes on your desktop?

[Villain]

Very interesting, but you will NEVER see Compiz Fusion on windows, due to the way XGL / AIGLX and X11 works, it is diffrerent from the way windows draws.

so, if you want the real deal, then use linux, if not, then well, you can have this neat desktop toy.

and yes, i DO think it is a nice desktop eyecandy app, but no where near Compiz Fusion.

This post has been edited by Solo: 10 March 2008 - 01:19 AM

[FireStarter]

Solo, on Mar 10 2008, 02:14 AM, said:

Very interesting, but you will NEVER see Compiz Fusion on windows, due to the way XGL / AIGLX and X11 works, it is diffrerent from the way windows draws.

you could, it just depends what kind of integration you expect


NAPALM (for the sake of simplicity & quality consistency) draws 100% in software, however you can still use OpenGL or Direct3D in such windows (I think one should avoid OpenGL in Vista, though). The MAJOR drawback is that you need the frame in memory, and 3D cards are very slow at doing that (that alone would already reduce the framerate to around 30 I think). But one would be able to do this just *once* & let various gadgets render in 3D, so that you wouldn't have the memory read penalty all the time (ok, except that all of those gadgets would have to have the same Z order).

I also don't think Vista's drawing is much different from XGL, I don't know either but they're both composited in accelerated 3D, so they can't be so different. Vista probably doesn't expose enough stuff for something like Compiz to appear & use existing windows, but who knows.

So if you're looking for 3D desktop cubes, I believe they already exist for Windows (you porbably know better than me), and I'm quite sure they're not very well integrated. But if you're looking for the 'front effects', this is very doable in accelerated 3D, both in XP & Vista.

If you want to see accelerated 3D using OpenGL, in a layered window, there's one here:
http://nmartin.free....p?go=glAirVideo

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i DO think it is a nice desktop eyecandy app, but no where near Compiz Fusion.

well, it obviously is just a fire.
I haven't seen Compiz'es Fire in anything else than crappy youtube video's btw, but from what I saw the method is different. It looks like particles with additive blending in Fire, themselves emitting particles above for the fire effect.
In NAPALM you get a blur. like in old-school fire effects. Not sure which one looks better, but there are lots of goodies in NAPALM, like attraction/repulsion (repulsion is a neat effect when you split the title in half by hovering it), gravity, etc. The blur has a major drawback though, as a feedback-based effect can't adapt its framerate (so if the fire gets too slow, it really gets slower [but not the animation tab settings])